CO129-590-11 Commission of Enquiry into irregularities in Immigration Departments 22-4-1941 - 19-12-1941 — Page 265

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Yes, provided of course that you have convinced the department of the

Foruth of the statement. Understand there is nothing personal in this.

when the .C.A. rang me up and said Mr. Ma's signature had not been

given effect to, and told me (wht, I now allow) that Mr. Ma was one of

the honest J.P.s I at once went anu gave instructions that Mr. Ma's

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signature was to be accepted without question'

I thank you.

Returning to the second complaint Mr. Ma. You said that a member of

your family went to Macau on the 26th February?

A.

That is 50.

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A.

That is three months after my office opened:

Yes.

Immigration Office

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You know that the and its work had been a subject of unusual

conversation in Hong Kong ever since it first opened?

A. Yes, I heard a lot.

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Therefore it was fairly well known that one did not get permits by

sending hotel boys for then but by making application for them on a

printed fora?

Chairman: This has no bearing on the question.

Mr. Forrest: I am pursuing the question of forged entry permits. It

is important for what I am going to say later on.

Mr. Ma. The women were ignorant of this.

Will you take it from me that 26th February was about the first day

that we discovered there were forced permit in existence?

A. Yes.

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It was very important for me as head of the department to find if

possible, where these forgeries came from:

Yes.

And also I think you will agree it was impossible for me to ascertain

whether the persons who came in under forged permits knew them to be

forged or not?

Yes.

It is a much more serious offence, I think you will agree, to come in with a forged permit kulowing it to be forged than to come in with a

forged one which one Was swindled into buying?

A.

Yes.

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